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David Zonderman from NC State University joined us on today’s show. image: https://awf.labortools.com/hubfs/NC%20State%20Red.png --- 1 min read Season 5, Episode 226 # NC State Labor Historian shared his thoughts on labor’s future [ awfblog ](https://awf.labortools.com/listen/author/awfblog) November 13, 2024 [Labor Issues](https://awf.labortools.com/listen/tag/labor-issues) [America's Work Force Union Podcast](https://awf.labortools.com/listen/tag/americas-work-force-union-podcast) [AWF](https://awf.labortools.com/listen/tag/awf) [NC State University](https://awf.labortools.com/listen/tag/nc-state-university) ![NC State Gray](https://awf.labortools.com/hs-fs/hubfs/NC%20State%20Gray.png?width=400&height=400&name=NC%20State%20Gray.png)   Guest Name: --- Dr. David Zonderman Guest Website: --- [NC State University](https://www.ncsu.edu/)  Guest Social Media: --- [ Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/ncstate) [ Twitter](https://twitter.com/ncstate) [ YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/ncstate) [ LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/school/north-carolina-state-university/) Supportive Documents: --- [Dr. David Zonderman](https://chass.ncsu.edu/people/dazonder/), Professor of History at [North Carolina State University (NC State)](https://www.ncsu.edu/), joined the America’s Work Force Union Podcast to discuss the path forward for the labor movement after many working people felt the political parties were not listening to their concerns. Zonderman spoke about the potential future of the labor movement under a Trump administration. Among the concerns mentioned by Zonderman is the future of the National Labor Relations Board. Based on past actions, he said the likely first steps under President Trump will be firing the current board members and installing new members. Zonderman said the current pro-labor NLRB would likely become a thing of the past. While the Democratic Party has been sympathetic to unions under the Biden Administration, this did not mean the working class felt supported. Zonderman discussed why the working class, which he pointed out is made up of a majority of non-union workers, did not vote for Democrat candidates. Finally, Zonderman discussed ways the labor movement can build and grow despite any policy changes coming from Washington, D.C. He said the best way forward was to put money behind organizing drives and spread the facts about organized labor and the benefits unions can provide. Zonderman noted that the pool of potential union members is massive, and their economic situation will only improve once unions lead that change. For more from Dr. Zonderman, listen to the show above. --- America’s Work Force is the only daily labor podcast in the US and has been on the air since 1993, supplying listeners with useful, relevant input into their daily lives through fact-finding features, in-depth interviews, informative news segments and practical consumer reports. America’s Work Force is committed to providing an accessible venue in which America's workers and their families can hear discussion on important, relevant topics such as employment, healthcare, legislative action, labor-management relations, corporate practices, finances, local and national politics, consumer reports and labor issues. 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